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:icontonywash:
Here is the Cover to WoW issue 21

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Mike Bowden

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Me


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~gharia Sep 26, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Now, I'm well aware none of this is your fault, Tony, but there's no way I'm not putting this up somewhere. This is COMMERCIAL ARTWORK, someone is getting PAYED to do this and this justifies scrutinizing it to the highest level.

First off, THE ABDOMINAL MUSCLES DON'T WORK LIKE THAT! Why do people not seem to grasp the simple concept that fat is on TOP of the muscle, not underneath!? The only way this figure would be even remotely possible is if he was super roided up, with not a trace of fat on his body, since steroids make the intestines grow and push the abdominal muscles outwards, due to the intestines being muscles too.

And no, I don't care that I'm bringing logic into fantasy, because you know what, fantasy is a reflection of real life. This is why Liefeld was so hated. No understanding of how the human body works. This ogre has a human musculature, which is why IT NEEDS TO FOLLOW THE RULES OUR ANATOMY DOES. No amount of pretty shading and lighting effects can fix a broken base.

Also the leg muscles are off. The bone is seriously like, wrapping around the hip or something, there's no stylistic answer to that, it's just plain wrong. Not to mention the perspective is off for the entire piece as well. Instead of being dynamic and cool, it just looks like the ogre is falling backwards, on a misshapen pedestal.

As stated previously, Tony, your rendering here is great. Now, to Mike, you should REALLY try to compliment your colorists' work with you know, this basic knowledge of anatomy I'm speaking of, and how 3 point perspective works, to create a coherent and cohesive base for your colorist to work off of! (I'm choosing to ignore the serratus area, which includes about 40 made up muscles; due to the fact that these tumors on character's sides are a common and recurring problem in comic book artwork, I'd just be yelling at people for that nonstop if I started) There should be a higher standard than this for people who are making fat wads of cash off of art!

Ok, I'm done. This is not nearly as bad as most of what Image Comics produced, and many other Liefeld-inspired, infinite pouch-sporting, leg-four-times-the-width-of-the-head creations, but today, here and now, is a new age in comic book art, and everything that is making someone money deserves to undergo a full range of scrutinies. I wouldn't want to live in a world where we blindly accept everything put before us as being right, or good.
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*Tonywash Sep 27, 2010  Professional Artist
Wow! Glad you like the rendering at least! :D I know Mike will appreciate the comments man. But to be honest, I don't mind the crazy muscles on this piece. It's of course not 100% correct but for the character, to me makes sense. Plus, Wildstorm and Blizzard dug it enough to make it a cover and how to piece for the Trade Paper Back. Again I understand your points and honesty, always feel free to leave us comments. As this is one of the most
professional critiques we've gotten.
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:icongharia:
~gharia Sep 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well, that's alright then, albeit strange that Blizzard of all companies would have accepted these pencils as is. And I would be flattered about the professional critique part, but honestly, this is DeviantArt we're talking about here...it doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't see a lot of critiques that were thought out (let alone WELL thought out) here.

Oh and it's also nice to not see the fans (yet) attacking the one giving the critique, armed with the idiotic sentence "Oh yeah, let's see you do better" I dunno, it's just immature to me, and pisses me off. It's worse when the artist does it him/herself. I could write a 600 page dissertation about why that statement is idiotic, pointless and insulting, but this isn't the time or place.
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*Tonywash Sep 27, 2010  Professional Artist
Trust me I have been a member for about 3 years and never received a critique as honest and thoughtful. Which is why I feel no one will hopefully not argue with ya. :) I do know some people just can't help themselves when it comes to negative comments and bashing. But I respect the fact that you took the time support your comments. Only time will tell how people will react. But I hope it will stay positive.
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~gharia Sep 27, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Eh, it won't bother me. XD It's not like I'm just saying it sucks, I mean, it really doesn't, it's far above the abilities of quite a lot of artists I've seen the work of. It's just that there is still quite a lot wrong, and it's hard to differentiate between critiquing a professional and non-professional piece sometimes, so it seems like I'm judging it on the same level as a 3rd grader's scribble. That may be why some people get pissed when someone gives C&C. I'm not bashing the piece, I'm pointing out any flaws I see for the benefit of the artist.

That does introduce one other thing...as is the case on CA, people don't indulge in complimenting the negative points with positive. There's no need for it when you're LOOKING for C&C, which kind of rubbed off on me after a while. This can...make me seem very negative and hateful... >__>
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*Tonywash Sep 27, 2010  Professional Artist
Oh I know your not bashing it. :) I respect comments such as yours. I would have an issue and would speak up if the comments came across as negative.
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~gharia Sep 28, 2010  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Hah, alright then.
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~Lon-ami May 21, 2009  Hobbyist Writer
Good work, you really caught the colors of Ahn'Qiraj and the Anubisaths in this picture.

Also, Cho'Gall looks impressive. After reading issue 19, I wonder if that's a glove or just... another thing :P.
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*Tonywash May 21, 2009  Professional Artist
Thanks again!! I really appreciate the comments. :D
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Freakin' sweeeeet!
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